Posts by The Searcher

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Your Opinion Pleeease

by thankyou in

jw girl non-jw guy.

tenuous boyfriend-girlfriend relationship.

what is more likely to strengthen a relationship?.

The Searcher

It can't work, and it won't work!

She has to give up the Org or the guy. I'd bet it's the guy.

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this was posted on another thread (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6040010839031808/christmas-tree-word-appreciation), but wondered about how others here would see this with one experience i had as an elder now as ex-jws.. when we were jw's we had to be extremely careful with what we said around the brotherhood.

if someone said anything out of the ordinary, relationships among the involved were halted immediately, or were never the same afterwards.

in this place, one can say almost anything without the fear of having a truck run over us.

The Searcher

"Even Thomas doubted the Lord"

Not only Thomas - Matthew 28:17 - "When they saw, him they did obeisance, but some doubted."

Imagine Nazism, communism, and the McCarthy witch-hunt combined - that's the "spiritual paradise."

Every J.W. knows how evil & apostate they'd appear, if they voiced an "independent" opinion.

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New Word Coined In April 2016 WT!

by Naoscillator in

and the word is... .

canaanitelike!.

here it is in context, just in case you're curious about how to use this new word.. article: being faithful leads to god's approval.

The Searcher

Nearly as bad as being parasiticlike!

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CoBE Joins those Elders Deserting the Sinking Ship

by The Searcher in

from a reliable source:.

a young cobe - late thirties, maybe forty - has resigned in december 2015, both as the cobe and as an elder.

word is that he is a man with a young family who is stressed out and has had enough.

The Searcher

From a reliable source:

A young COBE - late thirties, maybe forty - has resigned in December 2015, both as the COBE and as an Elder.

Word is that he is a man with a young family who is stressed out and has had enough.

That now makes six ex-elders in the same West country circuit in England.

6 out of 21 in only 10 months. (including the congregation that got disbanded.)

Perhaps those in the "elder-class" are starting to smell the coffee!

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When did district conventions become regional conventions and why?

by slimboyfat in

i think it was gary and heather bottings' book the orwellian world of jehovah's wifnesses that noted the function of the habit of the watchtower organisation of changing organisational terminology periodically.

congregations became companies and then back to congregations again.

circuit overseers became circuit servants and then back again.

The Searcher

"District" conventions were last mentioned by the Org in the October 2013 Kingdom Ministry.

If my memory serves me correctly, I think "regional conventions" were revealed in a letter in January 2014.

My suspicion at the time - which now appears confirmed here in the U.K.) was that greater numbers of J.W.'s were going to have to travel greater distances within a "region", as opposed to a "district".

Many J.W.'s in England now have to book into hotels for their "regional" convention", because the daily travelling time/distance involved is prohibitive.

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Yearbook 2016: Annual Report (15177 Partakers)

by Designer Stubble in

the 2016 yearbook is up on jw.orgbranches of jehovahs witnesses: 89 (was 90)number of lands reporting: 240 (was 239)total congregations: 118016 (was 115416)worldwide memorial attendance: 19,862,763 (was 19,950,019) decreasememorial partakers worldwide: 15,177 (was 14,121 in 2013:13,204) large increasepeak of publishers in kingdom service: 8,220,105 (was 8,201,205) minor increaseaverage publishers preaching each month: 7,987,279 (was 7,867,958)percentage of increase over 2014: 1.5 (was 2.2)total number baptized: 260,273 (was 275,581)average auxiliary pioneer publishers each month: 443,504 (was 635,298) huge decreaseaverage pioneer publishers each month: 1,135,210 (was 1,089,446)total hours spent in field: 1,933,473,727 (was 1,945,487,604) decreaseaverage home bible studies each month: 9,708,968 (was 9,499,933)

The Searcher

As far as the "congregations" figures are concerned, it's important to bear in mind that the Org is continually pushing the sheep to learn new languages in order to form new "groups". These groups - e.g. sign language, Chinese, etc., can eventually be classed as a separate "congregation" within an existing congregation, and simply has its own meetings in the same K.H. on alternative days. Increase!

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I have doubts... can you help me??- A new idea

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

i have been perplexed as to how to brung my wife out of jws and to exit the religion... but i had an idea last night.

i know that elders will legitimantly meet with brothers who have doubts and encourage them... not df them .. this is a sheperding call etc.. thus since my wife knows i have doubt s i could say: i want to have two brother over to discuss this ... she will agree.... of course i will hit these guys with biblical textual issues, an biology to where they are stunned and still ask... "so brothers... can you solve this conflict...?".

in this case they will not think of me as an apostate but may question their own beliefs... .

The Searcher

Try her/the the elders with this "doctrine" which creates the Org's 2-tier Christianity.

Here's what the Org teaches about the New Covenant and its participants:

jr chap. 14 p. 169 par. 4 You Can Benefit From the New Covenant"To understand the new covenant, we first have to grasp the purpose of the former one, the Law covenant.".....But who would be in this new covenant and gain that forgiveness?...That proved to be "the Israel of God," composed of Christians anointed with holy spirit......What of those who are not [directly] in the new covenant, the "other sheep," who hope to live forever on earth? In a sense, they are like the alien residents in Israel, who accepted and benefited from the Mosaic Law.

w83 3/15 p. 8 Who Should Partake? "So with the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ, a "new covenant" was put in force. What was the ‘old,’ or "former," covenant that it replaced?......This was the Law covenant. It was made with the nation of Israel shortly after they escaped captivity in Egypt. Moses was the mediator of that covenant made between Jehovah God and the Israelites (just as Jesus is the "mediator of a new covenant"). But it is noteworthy that there was a vast mixed company of non-Israelites who escaped from Egypt along with the Israelites. And although they enjoyed benefits as a result of this covenant, they were not included in it. There is a similar situation with the new covenant. Only Christians referred to as "the Israel of God" are taken into this covenant with Jehovah God. However, there is a "great crowd" of other Christians, referred to by Jesus as his "other sheep." Although these enjoy benefits from the new covenant, they are not included in it."

Here's what the Bible really teaches:

(Deuteronomy 29:10-15) "All of you are stationed today before Jehovah your God, the heads of your tribes, your elders, your officers, every man of Israel, 11 your children, your wives, and your foreign resident who is in the midst of your camp, from the one gathering your wood to the one drawing your water. 12 You are here in order to enter into the covenant of Jehovah your God and his oath, which Jehovah your God is making with you today 13　in order that he may establish you today as his people and that he may be your God, just as he has promised you and just as he swore to your forefathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. 14 "Now it is not with you alone that I am making this covenant and this oath, 15　but it is with those standing here with us today before Jehovah our God and with those who are not here with us today."

To reinforce what Moses wrote, Ruth and Rahab (two non-Israelite false-god worshippers) became full members of the nation of Israel and full participants of the Law Covenant - and as such, their respective offspring all gained inheritances within that nation.

This is confirmed by the fact that both of them were assimilated into the tribe of Judah and became direct ancestors of Jesus Christ. If both women were not fully Israelites, then Christ's lineage was corrupted by these women.

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for all the 'sheep dogs'..

by zeb in

https://www.youtube.com/v/m2g9-zbgdim&autoplay=1&rel=0

The Searcher

Good song.

Overwhelming thought:

Military "Bethelites" abandoned by their "mother" to rely on others when they are of no further use.

Don't the governments treat their loyal ones just like the Brooklyn ruling-class treat their pawns?

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Need advice on fade...

by StarTrekAngel in

the elder that was the coordinator of the boe has just left town to attend one of those infamous schools with this wife.

the view is that he will most likely return to be appointed co. not sure he is going to stick around here for a lot longer.. i am saying this because, despite them knowing he will return when the school is over, they removed him from the coordinator position and appointed someone else.

it was announced last night that the biggest jerk of the group of elders is now the coordinator of the boe.

The Searcher

Don't worry about any of the wolves - ever again!! Politely decline any/all invitations for "chats."

Just build a brick wall which they can't overcome - they'll get the message loud & clear.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/428170001/fading-beginners-guide

All the best!

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Latest, SHOCKING JW Paedophile case.

by Phizzy in

http://www.stratford-herald.com/45973-jehovahs-witness-jail...

The Searcher

Only five years?????????????????

The scum-bag will be out walking the streets before the new Britain Branch is built.